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Post by stk1201 on Jan 3, 2010 22:48:47 GMT -4
If I remember correctly Gerald last ran the car in Super Street not SS...what about Mike Macdonald's SS/EA 64 Max Wedge (Old Wheeler-Dealer) car?
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Post by Jeff Kempton on Jan 4, 2010 10:27:06 GMT -4
I believe that's correct; Gerald's wagon last ran in Super Street.
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Post by hemitime on Jan 4, 2010 11:33:09 GMT -4
If you click on the stock/superstock section of this site there is a pic of the un-hemi so naturally i figured it still is a superstocker,point is not to debate what class cars last ran in but rather to list some possibilities for some cars to be returned to this class ,if cars were class cars at one time then turned to bracket cars these guys could be approached to get them back ,with a bigger car count and more events ,it may bring some of these cars out of mothballs. The Wheeler Dealer 64 plymouth is a SS/DA and is not mark howes car,marks car is macdonalds first 64 car that mike ran in super street.
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Post by Jeff Kempton on Jan 4, 2010 21:34:37 GMT -4
Hemitime is correct in saying that the intention should be to identify what cars still exist in this area that are potential participants in a Stk/SS series. When I agreed that the Un-Hemi wagon last ran Super Street I did not intend to mean that it shouldn't be considered. I'll add it to the list.
I didn't realize that Mike MacDonald had more then one '64 Belvedere, and still has one. Has it been out in the last several years? I'll add it as inactive unless someone tells me that status is incorrect.
Thanks for the input. I've updated the list, and put the inactive cars in one group to make it easier to keep track. If the status on any of these cars should be changed, please let me know.
**List deleted from this post as it's updated in a later post **
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Post by stk1201 on Jan 4, 2010 23:08:56 GMT -4
Mike is from Moncton..Now maybe Hemitime will tell you Jeff about his SS project, you could add it to your list and it sure would be nice to see it out sometime very soon!
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Post by mirada on Jan 5, 2010 18:41:21 GMT -4
Great see all the action on this thread if it only took us three months to get an totally dormet car back on track whose to say some of the other cars on the list couldnt do the same.....nobodys asking for cars to run .50 under at first .just get feet wet again had a great time at the only S/SS event at MDP last year,great group of guys to run with and well run event.......AL
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Post by Jeff Kempton on Jan 5, 2010 20:12:53 GMT -4
You're right Al, it would be great to get some of the other cars out that are currently sitting gathering dust....they only have to run the index to be able to come play with the rest of the Stk/SS gang, and you've already shown them how much fun it can be!
Gerry, I spoke to HemiTime and he told me he has a new GT class entry in the works. I'll let him decide when he wants to make the details public.
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Post by Jeff Kempton on Jan 5, 2010 21:30:46 GMT -4
An individual who has been following this thread with great interest sent me the following info about the successful Can-Am Stock/Superstock series. This series races in southern Ontario, and it sounds like a great concept that is designed to maximize the fun of running a class car. I can't help but think that this approach would work equally well here in the Maritimes. I encourage everyone to read this through and offer any comments, and also I welcome any Stk/SS racers to post whether or not they'd be interested in racing in such a series. Below are some of their rules off of their website. One interesting thing is that they generate their ladder randomly. They do this because they found that the cars essentially qualify in the same order so you would run the same guys first round every weekend. Plus with no fuel and weight check there is no way to ensure the integrity of qualifying. It also eliminates the people that try to manipulate the ladders which is becoming quite popular in the U.S. They had 49 cars at their Labour Day weekend race, and regularly draw over 30 per race. They contribute $15 per car to the track. Can-Am Series History
The series was formed in 1996 by racers looking for a fun and competitive alternative to races run by the NHRA or IHRA. A committee was formed to organize a schedule and sponsors. A $125 registration fee is charged to collect points and a racers best 5 events are counted. The series culminates with a banquet brunch where monetary awards and prizes are given out. The tenth place finisher is guaranteed his $125 back.
Races are often run as back to back events on weekends and are run by a host racer, who often provide dinner for our racers and their families. Post-race Saturdays are relaxing evenings of visiting between racers.
Can-Am Series Rules
1. Open to Stock and Super Stock classes in IHRA, NHRA and Nostagia Super Stock (NSS). See Can-Am rules and classes for NSS. Exceptions - no Pure Stock and no FX Cars. 2. IHRA, NHRA and NSS current class rules, minimum weights, HP factors and indexes used must be on file with the Tech Committee prior to the race. 3. Permanent class designations must be displayed on vehicle. 4. Tech Committee has the right to inspect and weigh cars at any time (to be class legal) 5. Courtesy staging must be followed. AutoStart System (under control of Track/Tower) will be in operation during TT and Eliminations. Please familiarize yourself with the operation of the AutoStart as per the IHRA/NHRA rules books. 6. Cars must dial on or under the national index for their class. No heads-up races by cars in the same class. 7. Tech inspection to be completed by the race tracks before runs commence. 8. In the case of a bye or a break single run, the vehicle must stage under it's own power as per IHRA/NHRA rules. 9. Race Entry fee - $100 Cdn to be paid before first time trial. If racer is unable to make first round, racer or representative must notify host prior to draw. One-half the entry will be refunded ($50.00). If racer or representative does not notify the host that he/she is broken prior to draw there will be no refund. 10. Eliminations ladder to be determined by random draw. Draw to be held at host trailer 10 minutes after last time trial. Driver or representative must be in attendance for the draw. Once the ladder is drawn it is final. 11. Can-Am points series membership dues - $125 Cdn can be paid any time throughout the year but must be paid before beginning of a race to be counted. It is not necessary to be a member in order to race. 12. Race schedule to consist of 10 races. No rain-out or make-up races. Points to be totaly from 5 best races (not including non-points events). Points awarded as follows: 1 Point - attendance (maximum of 5 points) 1 Point - for each round won 1 Point - bonus point to race winner Attendance points are awarded only at races considered to be complete. 13. If a minimum of one round eliminations is completed, the race will be considered complete and winnings paid out and points awarded. If a round is incomplete, points and winnings revert to previous completed round. More info can be found on their website: www.smithperformance.com/can_am.html
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Post by stk1201 on Jan 5, 2010 22:43:31 GMT -4
Jeff if you would have look at our Maritime Stock/SuperStock page you would seen that we have rules along the same line as they do at other S/SS series and we might not do a fuel check but we use a set of scales to weight all cars. We all forgot about Wendell's other two cars, another SS/HA 1968 Cuda and his 1964 SS/BA car. I also forgot about Rick Ryan other 1969 Wagon which has been under construction for years! Yes I know about hemitime car and his plans, just thought he might add it to your List!
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Post by Jeremy on Jan 5, 2010 23:52:10 GMT -4
It also eliminates the people that try to manipulate the ladders which is becoming quite popular in the U.S. And also in the Maritimes. ;D This probably wouldn't ever happen, but I was just wondering what would be done: Say there were two H/SA Camaros. One runs IHRA all the time and the motor is rated at 254 hp. One runs NHRA all the time and the motor is rated at 263 hp. This means the IHRA car will be lighter. They meet in eliminations. It can't be heads up, can it? Maybe since the NHRA index is now 3 tenths lower, it would now be a shoe-polish race? Anyone know?
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